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Post with a character from a fandom I follow, and I'll respond with...

* How I FEEEEEL about this character
* All the people I ship romantically with this character
* My non-romantic OTP for this character
* My unpopular opinion about this character
* One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.


Be aware that it may take me a few days to respond, due to, y'know, school.


WTF, LJ. Can I not get a basic, text-only update post anymore?

Date: 2011-10-08 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
STEVEN GRANT ROGERS

STEEEEEEEVE! Pt. 1

Date: 2011-10-08 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiffie.livejournal.com
* How I FEEEEEL about this character--

Oh, man. There is so much I want to say about Steve! This will be long.

I love that he always does the right thing, even when it puts him at odds with his country. I love that he's not loyal to a government, but to an ideal. I love that he won't judge someone without evidence, and even the seemingly least-redeemable character should be given a second chance. I love that he does his duty without faltering, but takes no pleasure in doing things that hurt others, even if he has to.

I love that he's an artist and was totally trolling the entire in-universe Marvel Comics company by drawing his own book. I love that he sometimes sketches Bucky, as well as other people he's lost over the years.

I love that he decorates his apartment with things from his own era, and that none of the other Avengers give him shit for it. I love that Nick Fury bought him some of the old The Shadow radio show and they both sat, listening to it, for an evening.

I love that he's respected by everyone in-universe not because of how badass he is, but because of how good he is. I love that he's still also kind've everyone's badass grandpa, in the best way.

I love that he punched Hitler.

I love that he was able to keep The Invaders together, despite all of the in-fighting, simply because everyone looked up to him enough to listen when he said "work together." I love that he never really got involved with the shadowy vengeance-minded shit that some of the other wartime heroes did. I love that he didn't start out his wartime career as a perfect soldier, and made a ton of mistakes before really figuring it all out.

I love that, despite living in the modern era for quite a while, now, he's still got his manners and charm and belief that everyone should be treated with respect. I love that nothing he sees in our time has made him lose hope. I love that nothing he saw in his own ever did.

I love that he's got a deep attachment to his shield, and is utterly dejected whenever he loses it.

I love that, of all of the Avengers , Steve is the only one George Perez consistently draws with severe cowl-hair. I love that he's the de facto father figure of any Avengers team. I love that he's always the voice of reason in a team squabble.

I love that, even when he was teeny!Steve, he still had every last ounce of heart and determination that he has now. I love that he worked for the WPA. I love that he keeps a picture of his mother in a footlocker under his bed.

I love that he remembers every soldier that has ever died under his command, and never forgets their names.

I love that, even though he's been both Captain America and the head of SHIELD, he still insists on being called "Steve."

* All the people I ship romantically with this character--

I totally ship Steve/US Bill of Rights.

I guess Sharon, since she's been around the longest (in-universe time-wise) and is currently there. Also Bernie.

I'm really not terribly interested in Steve's interactions with anyone, romantically. I find his platonic relationships to be more interesting. I'll read Steve romance, but I don't favor it strongly.

* My non-romantic OTP for this character--

Steve and Bucky. Also Steve and Hawkeye, and Steve and Falcon, and... Steve has a lot of BFFs. Steve and Sharon also make a good non-romantic team.

But, overall, I do prefer Bucky as Steve's wingman. Possibly with Sam in there for ultimate BroT3 action.

* My unpopular opinion about this character--

Steve's not immortal or whatever the hell else Marvel seems to think the super soldier serum did to him. He's aging, just like everyone else. I actually like to think of Steve as currently closer to middle age, now. Still fit and totally able to kick your ass, but not the young buck he was when he was frozen, and certainly coming down off of his prime... albeit slowly.
Edited Date: 2011-10-08 07:11 am (UTC)

Pt. 2

Date: 2011-10-08 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiffie.livejournal.com
* One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon--

I wish Marvel would come up with a set history for Steve during WWII. Everyone wants to put him in various battles all over the globe during that period, because hey, who doesn't want to put Captain America into X battle? But, really, all it ends up doing is making the whole war confusing as hell.

Barring that... I kinda wish Civil War had never happened. It was an interesting plotline, but it felt really strained for all of the characters involved, especially Steve. If anything has been OOC in the last few years, I think Civil War pushed that button a few too many times. Not that Steve sticking to his morals was OOC by any means, but the fact that it even got there in the first place made me side-eye the whole debacle like woah.

Date: 2011-10-08 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
ALL OF THIS, FOREVER!

Captain America's fighting spirit is teeny!Stevie, IMO.

He has so many bros.

Civil War was ... let's not even talk about it. *covers eyes with hand*

Date: 2011-10-09 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiffie.livejournal.com
Captain America's fighting spirit is teeny!Stevie, IMO.

Yes. It is true. teeny!Steve is, well, teeny!Steve. He's the little guy who never backs down, never gives up, and will never take "no" for an answer.

Not gonna lie -- when I saw the movie, I was a little disappointed when teeny!Steve went away, because I would totally have gone for that. But then I realized that they were smart and didn't fall into the (stupid) trap of changing Steve's personality along with his physique, and all was right with the world. :3

If you haven't yet, read through Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty. There are a few good teeny!Steve moments in there.

He has so many bros.

Image (http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/ffnet_kiff/?action=view&current=teeny_bros.jpg)

SO MANY.
Edited Date: 2011-10-09 04:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-10-09 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
He's the little guy who never backs down, never gives up, and will never take "no" for an answer.

He's the guy who was determined to join the army and go fight Nazis etc. because it was the right thing to do, even though he was little and sickly.

If you haven't yet, read through Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty. There are a few good teeny!Steve moments in there.

Is that the adventures of Commander Rogers kicking the butts of people who take a new superserum even though his has supposedly been drained from his body? With the "I KO you with a fire extinguisher" moment?

Haha, I haven't read the comics that pic is from but I keep finding scans. Mostly from Tony/Steve shippers. (Steve can do so much better! But honestly, Tony couldn't. *cough*)

Date: 2011-10-09 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiffie.livejournal.com
Is that the adventures of Commander Rogers kicking the butts of people who take a new superserum even though his has supposedly been drained from his body? With the "I KO you with a fire extinguisher" moment?

I don't remember the fire extinguisher, but there was a great moment with a flagpole on a grandstand stage. SOL was a fairly short-lived series in the late 90s -- I think I even recommended an Invaders arc from there, not too long ago. It featured a lot of little flashback stories and, since it ran concurrently with the regular Cap book, it could afford to be almost an anthology sometimes, because folks were getting their regular story fix from the main book.

Haha, I haven't read the comics that pic is from but I keep finding scans.

It's called Avengers: Prime, and it really is a nice little story. Thor, Cap, and Tony get catapulted into a f-up part of the Nine Realms and have to fight the evil force that dragged them there.

Includes the lines:

"Where did you get that armor?"

"I stole it from some elves."

"...Of course you did."

Date: 2011-10-09 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
This was definitely more recent than the 90s, but I can't find the page I thought I saved. Basically, they somehow neutralized all the super serum in Steve, reverting him to teeny!Steve. 9I don't think this should have worked, personally.) At which point they thought he was helpless. They were wrong.

More quotes:

"Any excuse to get me to hold you in my arms."

"You see right through me."

KWAAANG!

Date: 2011-11-15 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiffie.livejournal.com
...

Steve just brained someone with a fire extinguisher. I'm not sure how I feel about this. Because up to that point, he'd been fairly non-lethal, and then... KWAAANG!

I guess I can buy that he just gave the guy a really severe concussion, but... Damn, Steve.

Re: KWAAANG!

Date: 2011-11-16 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
Dude kept coming after Steve shot his legs out. AS they say on Vulcan, "The cause was sufficient."

(And anyway, those baddies are all hoppe dup on a new super-soldier serum extract. They'll probably recover.)
Edited Date: 2011-11-16 01:37 am (UTC)

:o

Date: 2011-11-16 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiffie.livejournal.com
Never let Steve and Spock meet -- they'd probably be BFFs. X3

\\//_

Date: 2011-11-16 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
I enjoy thinking about comic book peeps meeting Star Trek peeps. Kon seems to haev a special affinity with Kirk, for example.

Although the Legion of Superheroes/Star Trek (TOS) crossover mini we're getting right now is moving awfully slowly. They only just encoutnered each other at the end of issue 2, and they're so clearly about to have a "two good guy teams meet and through a misunderstanding end up fighting before teaming up against the real bad guys" thing.

:3

Date: 2011-11-16 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiffie.livejournal.com
I did not even know there was a crossover going! :o

Re: :3

Date: 2011-11-16 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eliyes.livejournal.com
Yep. They keep messing up Chekov's hair, and so far all we've seen of the main villain (the Emperor) is a goatee. It might be Vandal Savage. It might be a good guy gone evil.

The Coluans seem to have merged with the Vulcans. o_O

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